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dyhometheaterguy

Different Trivia and Music for sequences

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I asked this on the Kodi forums but I figured I would get a faster response here possibly.

Is there a way to have different trivia and music for sequences? For instance, I want to have a Star Wars marathon before The Rise of Skywalker comes out so I am planning ahead. I just want Star Wars music and Star Wars trivia to play before the movie. How is this possible because I don't see the option to change that when you edit sequences. Possible update maybe? any ideas? Love this add-on btw

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There's no way to automate this, the developer, or someone on the developers team said a few years ago this was a feature they wanted to add.  I really tried to think of a work around here, but the best I could do have just the trivia slides for Star Wars in the trivia folder and point the music to a folder with just the stars wars music.  You'd have to manually move trivia slides and music around every movie though. So it's not idea, but it's the only solution I could come up with. 

 

*IF* there's a way to do this using actions I'm all ears. I admittedly  don't know a whole lot about what the actions do. But I believe it's to control stuff like lighting and external things.

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4 hours ago, quebert said:

There's no way to automate this, the developer, or someone on the developers team said a few years ago this was a feature they wanted to add.  I really tried to think of a work around here, but the best I could do have just the trivia slides for Star Wars in the trivia folder and point the music to a folder with just the stars wars music.  You'd have to manually move trivia slides and music around every movie though. So it's not idea, but it's the only solution I could come up with. 

 

*IF* there's a way to do this using actions I'm all ears. I admittedly  don't know a whole lot about what the actions do. But I believe it's to control stuff like lighting and external things.

I was thinking you could point to a trivia folder in the sequence like you can do with music. Does not seem like it would be difficult. I just did a Kids/Disney sequence the other and forgot to change it out and it is playing Pixar slides during a horror movie. So what is would be is I just have to take slides in and out every single time?

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The only way I can think of is you'd setup a sequence just for Star Wars and use a condition for that sequence to play.  I don't do anything with slideshows, but that's how I've got my IMAX and Atmos movies set.  They use tags in the .nfo files of the movies and I set those tags as the condition for that sequence to run when those movies are played.  I would think it would make sense for it to work with slideshows as those are part of the sequence, but as I said before, I don't use them so this is just me trying to help with conjecture.

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On 10/29/2019 at 7:06 PM, dyhometheaterguy said:

I was thinking you could point to a trivia folder in the sequence like you can do with music. Does not seem like it would be difficult. I just did a Kids/Disney sequence the other and forgot to change it out and it is playing Pixar slides during a horror movie. So what is would be is I just have to take slides in and out every single time?

Yes, manually copying just the trivia you want into the trivia folder before you play a movie is the only way you can do this. If they make accessing the trivia slides like the music, where you can specify a file or folder in a sequence. You could just make different ones for different movies and not have to do anything really. Now OTA brings up something that you could look into. I don't know exactly, but it might be do-able with some tinkering.  Trivia's a bit different than a video clip or slideshows though, as trivia has multiple slides per image. And I think you'd still be stuck because there's only the 1 trivia folder, most of the other elements you can specify as generic and point to a folder. The developer's back after he was gone for a good minute. Maybe he still has plans to do change the trivia to work like you're asking. That's just about the only thing CV doesn't have that I would love. 

 

If anyone knows of any sort of work around here, I definitely could be wrong and there might be a way to pull this off with some trickery.

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So I just figured out a super rigged work around here, it's a lot lot of extra work, but for someone like me who has a ton of free time I guess it's okay. So the time involved is definitely a downside. As is the fact it's no longer random.

 

I usually let my trivia run for 1-2 minutes. For this I went with 1 minute. In video editing software I made a 1 minute video where I took and dropped the trivia slides into the time line. Then I added the music. Since I want themed trivia everything was Star Wars. Then I remade the video but put the slides in a different order on the time line. Then I made another 1 minute video and dropped other trivia slides in it.  So now in CV instead of having a Trivia element in my sequence, I have a video bumper set to play a folder randomly.

 

The down sides: as I mentioned already. This is extra work, depending on how much trivia you have, and how many different movies you want to make specific trivia for. It could be a super ton of work.  And as I also mentioned, it's not totally random anymore. And will be limited to whatever you put in an AVI file. To counter this, I'll be making maybe 3 AVI's for each 1 minute video with the trivia in different orders so it seems more random. So for a movie like Star Wars where I have over 100 slides, I'll probably have to make like 90 videos. But like I said, I got time and don't mind wasting it lol. Another nother diwb side, I don't understand the conditional XML based stuff. So I still have to make a separate sequence file for each movie I want trivia for, and manually launch the sequence when I start CV before the movie. If anyone could point me to a tutorial how to automate this, I think it's possible any ways? I'd like to at least know if it is so I don't waste my time trying to do it unless it's a thing that can be done. Basically what I'm asking, if I play Indiana Jones is there a way to make CV automatically play a Indy sequence file I made?

On the plus side:  No need to copy trivia slides in and out of a directory every time before you start a new movie.  I think for most normal people, this plus is way offset by the fact you have to invest so much time making AVI files lol. It was worth all the work to me, but for most this is probably way too much effort for the pay off.  But, I thought I'd offer up my solution as there might be people out there who don't mind wasting endless time on a project. 

 

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