Demo World Down?

[OTA 78]

Whoa.  I just went to check on if there were any new releases for bumpers and found that Demo World is no longer responding.  I hope this isn't permanent.

[MartinsVision 17]

Looks like its gone...

We need to use the web archive and put as much on here as we can ...

 https://web.archive.org/web/20200425113157/https://www.demo-world.eu/2d-demo-trailers-hd/

Edited July 16, 2020 by MartinsVision
Wrong link

[OTA 78]

Oh man, what a loss of a great resource.  At one point I had most of the bumpers I was interested in, but ended up just keeping the few I liked.

I don't think the archive.org scraper would be able to get the files as they were hosted somewhere else.  Honestly, with the little traffic this website gets anymore, I'm not sure this would be the safest place either.  Too bad they didn't create a torrent of all their files or something before they shut down.

Edited July 16, 2020 by OTA

[MartinsVision 17]

It looks like anything under a certain Mb or maybe how the site was scraped what ever got scraped first i was able to start pulling the mkv from the first set of links then they seemed to disappear. Im with you tho seems like CinemaVision is struggling with traffic but it has come back from the dead many times hopefully it can keep alive but i was thinking to to make a torrent of my entire collection to keep it out there but we still need CinemaVision to keep the app alive i know we need some more developers but is the website hosting at least still going for awhile ? last i heard it was this year   

[OTA 78]

I dunno.  I'm not savvy to any behind the scenes information.  I read somewhere else that CV moved hosts which would explain why some of the posts in active topics are missing during that transition period.  This happened maybe a couple of months ago.  A whois search indicates the domain is registered through 4.2.2021 and I would presume the hosting fees are payed though the same date, but only the admins would know for sure.  So until the domain registration is extended we've got about 9 months.

[maddin 1]

why not start a new website for trailers/bumpers?
if anyone is up to talk about something like that, just send me a message.

[OTA 78]

IMO they should be uploaded to archive.org.  They may already have been.  Haven't checked yet.

[maddin 1]

as far as I know, web.archive.org just does backup of images, no other files.

[OTA 78]

Oh no, archive.org does all sorts of things.  Web site archives, texts, video, audio, TV, software, images, concerts...  They even have an integrated MAME to stream arcade games over your browser.  It's a great resource for finding old DOS games as well.

[maddin 1]

oh nice, thanks will check on those things. 😉

But as far as I can see, the files from demo-world are not backed up on archive.org.
and also its not as easy to find as on a specific webpage. 

So I would still be up to create a new website.

[cr08 6]

Just came across this thread and sad to see the site go and would have worked on grabbing the important stuff (bulk media, trailers, demos, posters, logos, etc..) if I had the chance. Thankfully it seems a large chunk of it is already posted here at the CV site.

Maybe want to consider reaching out to a user by the username /u/ctrlaltd1337 on reddit as he's posted a few times in /r/DataHoarder about having this stuff archived but at last check is just finding a place to upload or potentially torrent it.

Additionally someone's posted a text file of all the download links that were listed around the site (which would mainly consist of demos, trailers, posters, and logos):

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352106286655078401/677042304808255491/demo-world.txt

I'm probably going to take it upon myself in the meantime to compare what I have and fill in from here at CV's files section and compare to the above listing and get a good idea of what is missing if anything.

EDIT: Upon further inspection, it seems a lot of this content could have been duplicated on other sites. I'm going to continue to dig into it further to see what I can track down.

Edited July 28, 2020 by cr08

[OTA 78]

Oh man, I forgot about the logos.

[cr08 6]

Good news: Looks like the Wayback Machine has archived many of the logo/poster downloads. These were ones that seemed like they'd be the hardest to track down. Working on them slowly. The downloads seem to be intermittent but some work after a few retries.

Once I have things a bit better organized I'll probably post a sheet here comparing what should have been on DW per the file list linked above and what I've been able to acquire.

[cr08 6]

So ultimately this is what I've been able to grab from the Wayback Machine from Demo World:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v65tOokgNaeRS0dDAXDZBbXtjpjEzqYEdxWWWtrQYUo/edit?usp=sharing

Overall it has the entire list of download links posted earlier in this thread and what is hilighted in green is what I've been able to grab direct from Demo World's archives.

 

Now there are a couple other sources that have duplicated or may have even more than what DW had. First off is obviously CinemaVision's own collection of files. There's also DemoLandia and TheDigitalTheater. These are the main sites I've focused on and also grabbed copies of their content. The naming is making it a bit difficult to compare to DW so I am considering just leading off with the collection of files from each individual site and post them as-is.

That said the initial posting is likely going to be in torrent form to make it easy to get out there. I need to see if there's a way I can post this to the Internet Archive proper and not have it buried behind Wayback Machine archives.

[maddin 1]

Nice work @cr08!
 

I am going to host a new website, where all of this stuff can be published.
Already got the hoster, working on the site itself now. should be good to go latest next week. Unfortunately demo-world.eu is still blocked and can't be used for now.

 

[OTA 78]

I wonder if it would be best just to contact Bernd directly and explain that somebody is wanting to follow in his footsteps and ask if he can provide the files?  I'm sure he just didn't hit the delete button when the site was retired.

[maddin 1]

I tried that, but the mail address is also shut down.
Maybe I will try and send him a letter, hoping his address on the site was real.

[cr08 6]

Yeah, if anyone can get a hold of him that'd be awesome and an easier method. In the meantime I should be able to post a torrent magnet link shortly of what I have (if there's any objections from mods/admins let me know). Will try and keep it seeded for a while. Out of respect of the guys here at CV I'm leaving out the content from this site even though most of it is duplicates of what was posted at DW. That said it's all easy enough to grab from here. And I'll maintain copies in the worst case this site goes MIA down the line.

Edited August 6, 2020 by cr08

[cr08 6]

Here you go:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DPTM5Z6X5BJYAMGMZF4KRN3EHPLG3MTH&dn=HT_Demo_Videos&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fsantost12.xyz%3A6969%2Fannounce

[OTA 78]

I think the files here have been repackaged to a different container other than what Demo World used, though I could be wrong.  Also, there have been some complaints from other users that they are unable to access some of the free content due to permissions issues.  You may want to include them anyway for those reasons.  Thanks for your efforts!

Edited August 6, 2020 by OTA

[cr08 6]

I'll go ahead and create a second torrent then just for CV stuff in that case. Makes it easier and if CV admins object I can just take it down on its own. Should be able to post that up here within the hour as well.

 

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Ok. So just going over again what I have. Here's a sheet of what all downloads were available from DemoWorld. Highlighted green files are what I was able to grab from The Wayback Machine and are included in the relevant torrent linked below. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v65tOokgNaeRS0dDAXDZBbXtjpjEzqYEdxWWWtrQYUo/edit?usp=sharing

CV video collection: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:UN7UNLNYOVPAH344PZYPQVYGTQEXBNLZ&dn=CinemaVision&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fsantost12.xyz%3A6969%2Fannounce
DemoWorld/DemoLandia/TheDigitalTheater collection: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DPTM5Z6X5BJYAMGMZF4KRN3EHPLG3MTH&dn=HT_Demo_Videos&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fsantost12.xyz%3A6969%2Fannounce

I'll leave these up and seed as long as I can and these will remain on my NAS for the foreseeable future. If any admins/mods have any issues with this, please let me know and I'll remove/make changes as requested. The intent is merely to have reasonable backup copies and access to this stuff especially after the loss of DemoWorld.

 

Edited August 6, 2020 by cr08

[maikito26 0]

Is this still up?  The magnet links are work except it doesnt appear to download anything.

[cr08 6]

Apparently my internet died middle of the day while I was out. All should be good now.

[maikito26 0]

Might be dead again 😛  Appreciate everything though! 

[maddin 1]

I am still working on the website.

And also seeding here, my server is up 24/7.
Just don´t have the "HT_Demo_Videos" fully loaded yet.

[maddin 1]

got sidetrack by work last couple weeks.
in the time someone has put up demo-world.eu again. at least the website, file download not working right now.