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TiredDad

How does CinemaVision know trailer MPAA ratings?

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Hello,

I have tons of locally stored trailers.  My question is: if I set CV to restrict trailers by rating so my kids don't see "R" rated materials under a child Kodi account, how will the plugin know what trailers to play?  Does it check the database to see the rating of, say, "An Extremely Goofy Movie" and know that the movie is "G" rated, so the trailer is safe to play?

What method does it use for determining ratings for streaming trailers?

Thanks for any insight you can provide.

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11 hours ago, TiredDad said:

Hello,

I have tons of locally stored trailers.  My question is: if I set CV to restrict trailers by rating so my kids don't see "R" rated materials under a child Kodi account, how will the plugin know what trailers to play?  Does it check the database to see the rating of, say, "An Extremely Goofy Movie" and know that the movie is "G" rated, so the trailer is safe to play?

What method does it use for determining ratings for streaming trailers?

Thanks for any insight you can provide.

Indeed it does. So CinemaVision relies on the rating stored with the trailer in the Kodi database, or from a streaming source like iTunes. While they do occasionally get mislabeled on iTunes for G movies because Apple isn't on the ball with updating the rating from NR to G once the movie gets a rating, CinemaVision is pretty good about limiting the trailers played. You can set that globally, or for the specific module in a sequence you've built for your kids.

Also, if you need help, let us know. :)

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1 hour ago, Ragnarok said:

Indeed it does. So CinemaVision relies on the rating stored with the trailer in the Kodi database, or from a streaming source like iTunes. While they do occasionally get mislabeled on iTunes for G movies because Apple isn't on the ball with updating the rating from NR to G once the movie gets a rating, CinemaVision is pretty good about limiting the trailers played. You can set that globally, or for the specific module in a sequence you've built for your kids.

Also, if you need help, let us know. :)

Thanks for the repsonse, I figured as much. Sorry for posting in the wrong seceiton, I just noticed the add-on support forum below this.  I haven't had many difficulties, but I do have another question. I will post it in the other forum.

 

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4 hours ago, TiredDad said:

Thanks for the repsonse, I figured as much. Sorry for posting in the wrong seceiton, I just noticed the add-on support forum below this.  I haven't had many difficulties, but I do have another question. I will post it in the other forum.

 

Totally not a problem, I can move it! :D

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On 12/4/2015, 10:16:55, Ragnarok said:

Indeed it does. So CinemaVision relies on the rating stored with the trailer in the Kodi database, or from a streaming source like iTunes. While they do occasionally get mislabeled on iTunes for G movies because Apple isn't on the ball with updating the rating from NR to G once the movie gets a rating, CinemaVision is pretty good about limiting the trailers played. You can set that globally, or for the specific module in a sequence you've built for your kids.

Also, if you need help, let us know. :)

Follow up question:

 

I use Metabrowser to grab "coming soon" trailers which are all downloaded to a specific Windows share.  While Metabrowser has the ability to download metadata for the trailer, I do not have that enabled because it would mean putting each trailer into a folder of its own (more on that later).

 

Q1: If the "coming soon" trailers are just in a folder with filenames like bare-tlr1_a720p or thejunglebook-tlr1_a720p, how will CinemaVision know which is appropriate to show?

Q2: If I let Metabrowser download the metadata for the trailers, will it:

a) honour the MPAA rating for the trailer?

b) be able to discern that I want 2 or 3 random trailers from the parent folder and know enough to dig into the subfolders to play the trailers?

Thanks.

 

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17 hours ago, TiredDad said:

Follow up question:

 

I use Metabrowser to grab "coming soon" trailers which are all downloaded to a specific Windows share.  While Metabrowser has the ability to download metadata for the trailer, I do not have that enabled because it would mean putting each trailer into a folder of its own (more on that later).

 

Q1: If the "coming soon" trailers are just in a folder with filenames like bare-tlr1_a720p or thejunglebook-tlr1_a720p, how will CinemaVision know which is appropriate to show?

Q2: If I let Metabrowser download the metadata for the trailers, will it:

a) honour the MPAA rating for the trailer?

b) be able to discern that I want 2 or 3 random trailers from the parent folder and know enough to dig into the subfolders to play the trailers?

Thanks.

 

We have only added scrapers for the Kodi database, and two websites that have APIs we can connect to and identify the trailer rating (iTunes and StereoscopyNews). We haven't added a scraper for Metabrowser or any third party application. Even if you had Metabrowser set to download the metadata for the trailers, it would need to be correctly scraped into the Kodi database for CinemaVision to know what it is. I put up best practices in the Kodi thread (since we don't yet have a guides section here) the other day that should help you with getting your trailers scraped into Kodi. Scroll down to the section labeled KODI BEST PRACTICES.

As for the folder/subfolder question, if you nest things in the %CVROOT%\Trailers folder it will find them and play them, but unless they're scraped into Kodi properly it won't know their genre or rating.

It is a possibility to add a scraper for Metabrowser, as long as it's consistent with how it stores the data. If you can customize how you want that data stored, it becomes nearly impossible to set a standard that we can use.

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5 hours ago, Ragnarok said:

We have only added scrapers for the Kodi database, and two websites that have APIs we can connect to and identify the trailer rating (iTunes and StereoscopyNews). We haven't added a scraper for Metabrowser or any third party application. Even if you had Metabrowser set to download the metadata for the trailers, it would need to be correctly scraped into the Kodi database for CinemaVision to know what it is. I put up best practices in the Kodi thread (since we don't yet have a guides section here) the other day that should help you with getting your trailers scraped into Kodi. Scroll down to the section labeled KODI BEST PRACTICES.

As for the folder/subfolder question, if you nest things in the %CVROOT%\Trailers folder it will find them and play them, but unless they're scraped into Kodi properly it won't know their genre or rating.

It is a possibility to add a scraper for Metabrowser, as long as it's consistent with how it stores the data. If you can customize how you want that data stored, it becomes nearly impossible to set a standard that we can use.

So, when CinemaVision obtains the trailer from iTunes, is it streaming or downloading and storing it?  If stored, that would be good as it saves on downloading usage later so I don't exceed my Internet usage monthly.  If it is stored, what is the location?

Thanks for all your help so far. 

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