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  1. Is there any way to have Cinemavision suspend KODI's "Adjust Display Refresh Rate" to OFF while CinemaVision is doing its thing and then turn it back ON right before the main features starts? I want my movies to be smooth and not drop frames (hence ON), but having it on while CinemaVision plays through bumpers, commercials, etc. causes big delays with my projector which then often misses the beginning of some of the CinemaVision bumpers/videos. Thus, I'd prefer it off so those play quickly, but then have it back on when the movie starts. If there is currently no way, I'd like to see that option, if possible, in the future. EDIT: Nevermind, I see there's another thread on this.
  2. I was thinking that perhaps some of the "movie facts" and "film quotes" need their own timer for similar reasons. They seem to be using the "answer" timer and trying to read a paragraph in 6 seconds can be rough, yet like aufvr pointed out, for trivia questions that basically have one word answers, you're sitting there a long time staring at something like "Han Solo" if you increase the time to make film quotes readable. I don't know if it was just the one trivia slide set, but I recall at least one Star Wars (think it was Revenge of the Sith) set where it had a "blank" for the answer and it started filling in "hint" letters. Not only did this take the equivalent time of like 5 normal trivia questions (i.e. I would never include that type for any reason personally), but it seemed to get the order wrong in that it gave the answer and then gave more hints. Can we just pull intermediate slides out of a collection to skip over 5 hints so it gives ONE and that's it? I hate to give up the entire Star Wars set because of one or two bad behaving slides. Many trivia slides seem to be followed immediately by film quotes from the same movie (don't think this is a coincidence since much of the time they seem to be related to that question). Again, this seems to use the answer timer which means I often can't read them fast enough, particularly if I wasn't paying attention since the last answer was a "one word" one and I'm waiting for the next question. Perhaps film quotes could be set to use the question timer instead? That would make a lot more sense, IMO. OTOH, maybe it already is and I'm just thinking 8-9 seconds are going by fast because I'm trying to look at the slide and read the text? I've also had the trivia timer be up and the movie previews start just as a slide comes up (say a film quote) I want to read and it cuts out. I assume it will not show that one again since it will be marked read. What about the possibility of extending the timer to finish a given slide set before proceeding (i.e. timer + current slide set)? That would ensure it doesn't start the movie in the middle of a slide.
  3. The CinemaVision launcher add-on is a context menu add-on. In other words, that's the only place it adds the CinemaVision button. If some skins make it available elsewhere, that's up to the skin authors. Personally, I don't want every video I start to use CinemaVision so a context menu option is fine for me.
  4. I'm not sure why it's not working for you, but you could try this modded one (Arctic Zephyr Plus) that I also added a line of code to remove the "busy" indicator from. It works fine here with CinemaVision. skin.arctic.zephyr_plus.master.CinemaKrypton.zip
  5. VonMagnum

    Skins with CinemaVision Support?

    If anyone wants Confluence 3.1.0 (for 17.3 Krypton) modified so it suppresses the "working" busy indicator, I've attached a modified version here. It only changes one line of code as illustrated above. If anyone wants a version for 15.2 Isengard, I can provide one there as well. I've also got a modified Arctic Zephyr Plus that also rids it of the busy indicator only when using CinemaVision. Use the "add with zip" option under Add-Ons in the system preferences to install it (don't unzip it yourself). You'll still need the CinemaVision launcher add-on here. This only gets rid of the annoying "working" busy indicator that pulls you out of the cinema feel. SkinConfluenceCinemaKrypton3.1.0.zip
  6. VonMagnum

    Need Ideas for a Movie Night (Usual Suspects)

    Have you considered using PROFILES in Kodi? With that, you basically can have a different set of settings for each "person" added to the list. It's also a great way to block adult content for younger viewers, etc. You could have a separate user setting for your son and "his" settings for CinemaVision could have different trivia slides, etc. than yours. You could alternatively use this for different presentations in general (SciFi, Classics, Family, etc. etc.). Basically, you create a default setup for everyone (normally defaults to whatever you already have set up for a single user) and then you can modify that setup for the new accounts (remove video sources, change plugin settings, etc.) It may not be perfect, but it's probably better than having to manually exchange slides, videos, etc. You would, of course, have to have a different CinemaVision set of directories for each user to have different settings, but you only have to do this once instead of moving files every time.
  7. VonMagnum

    Need Ideas for a Movie Night (Usual Suspects)

    I wouldn't use trivia slides from the movie under any circumstance (like you say you'd be giving things away in the movie). What I think you want is to impress them with the overall movie theater-like experience and IMO that doesn't necessarily mean you have to even use trivia slides at all. Personally, I've got scripts for No Trailers No Trailers with Cartoon Short No Trailers with Trivia No Trailers with Trivia and Cartoon Short I also have the same WITH trailers with the above options. My default is NoTrailers (least obtrusive for my own personal viewing when I don't have visitors but still want THX bumpers, etc. to play). So the question is then what do I play beyond trailers and possible trivia or cartoons (which are Disney or Looney Tunes randomly picked). I'll run through what I use and when. Keep in mind I got 90% of these from YouTube captures (at 720p when possible). I'll show the full script order and (if used) ones are only there if that script is selected: 1> (Trivia Intro if Trivia selection is used) - I couldn't find ANYTHING useful online except CinemaVision's own trailer downloads and they're so specifically themed, I didn't want to use them so I made my own with iMovie with some effects and sounds. I thought it turned out pretty cool. 2> (Actual Trivia Slides if used) 3> Countdown - I have 14 Countdown videos randomly picked to let you know it's getting ready to start (whether leaving Trivia or just starting the movie process) ranging from old film style ones to space or breaking glass, etc. 4> Courtesy Video - I've currently got 32 courtesy/rules/intro videos ranging from turn off your cell phone videos to MrBean cinema rules to No Smoking in the theater videos to "Welcome to Cinemark" intro videos and even the recent Angry Birds courtesy video. I've also got stuff like "Lets go the lobby" here including the Geico modern version and the Simpson one where homer bites the head off the walking hot dog with screams/panic. It randomly picks one. 5> Theater Intro - That's the name I use, but instead of a theater intro (pointless for me since it's covered in Feature/Courtesy/Coming Attraction videos already) I use a short candy-or drink themed commercial no longer than 15-25 seconds at most. I have Reece's, Payday, Twix, Milky Way, Coca-Cola, York Peppermint Patties and some of them are theater themed. Others fit well anyway. Plus I have a bunch of those Snickers commercials where "you're not yourself" including celebrity ones with MrBean, Joan Collins, Betty White etc. as they are kind of funny. It's kind of a movie gimmick/snack reminder without being long enough to be irritating. 6> Short Film - Here I currently have 48 randomly picked videos. 27 of them are M&M "funny" commercials including some movie theater based ones. Most are 720P HD. I have a funny skittles commercial as well. I also have several "sexy" Carls Jr. Burger commercials, Go Daddy commercials and 9 funny Subaru commercials featuring dogs driving the cars (My last three cars have been Subarus so it makes sense for me plus they were pretty funny). These are either meant to be funny or entertaining and generally are longer 25 second to almost a minute (I don't want 'boring' ads here) 7> (Trailer Intro If Trailers are used in script) - Currently 13 randomly picked. Most of these are from real theaters or designed for a real theater "Coming Attractions" type messages. 8> (Trailer if used) 9> (Cartoon Intro if used) - I found some cartoon network and a "cartoon explosion" 'intro' if cartoons short option is used 10> (Cartoon if used) - I use video play "directory" for this and have hundreds of Disney and Loony Tune cartoons (I bought some rather complete sets on DVD a long time ago and while not HD, they still look pretty good even on a 93" screen). I have so many, in fact, it'd be nice if CinemaVision would keep track which ones were played so they don't repeat until they go through them all. 11> Feature Intro - Currently 28 randomly picked entries. These are mostly from real theaters or designed for real theaters and I've got most all the General Cinema stuff from 1970s until they were bought out to all the cartoon Cinemark videos, the Regal Roller coaster, etc. The key was to find as high/clean resolution as possible. This was difficult in some cases (e.g. most of the Cinemark cartoons are poor resolution and have copyright and other messages added in the corner that did not exist in the theater; one provider had the unmarked videos in better quality, however). The regal roller coaster was available in HD due to it being re-released, but the video had a YouTube "intro" text tacked on that destroyed its usefulness, but some editing in iMovie fixed that.... I've even got cinema feature intros from British theaters in England. 12> Feature Outro - I use this to randomly pick one of 17 videos for either THX Bumpers or Cinemark "XD" bumpers. Who doesn't love THX bumpers before the movie? 13> Audio Bumper - Detected Audio Used selects a matching bumper. I've got 5 stereo ones (Dolby Stereo, Dolby SR Stereo and Ultra Stereo plus two generic Dolbys), 15 Dolby Digital ones, 2 regular DTS ones, 5 DTS-HD Master Audio ones, 1 dolby digital plus, 2 Dolby Atmos, 2 Dolby TrueHD, 2 DTS-X and 1 DataSat. I don't think Atmos, DTS-X or Datasat are detectable yet and I'm not sure about Dolby Digital Plus detection in Kodi (I don't have any to test it with). DolbyTrueHD, DTS, DTS-HD Master Audio, Dolby Digital and stereo (OTHER) all work fine. 14> Rating - I use blue styled rating slides instead of videos as Kodi seems to cut off the fade in/out here for some reason. These are detected and match the movie and don't show up if there is no rating (as opposed to officially "not rated" which has its own slide). 15> FEATURE MOVIE (Yay the movie finally plays!) 16> (Intermission) - If 2+ movies are queued instead of just one, it randomly selects one of 6 Drive-In style Intermission videos to play between the movies. These are 6-10 minutes in length and allow people to go to the bathroom or get snacks while showing classic drive-in videos for those still sitting there waiting (nostalgic). Sadly, these aren't the highest video quality, but they're still cool. 17> Any Additional Movies Play with 16-17 repeating until the queue is empty. 18> Theater Outro - Random selection of 7 items here. This plays if you let the credits roll all the way through on the last movie feature. I've got a drive-in goodnight message, the ending to Ferris Bueller (funny bit it really showed at end of credits "You're still here? It's over! Go Home....Go!") and a few variations on the Loony Tunes "That's All Folks" including a funny one from the end of Space Jam where Porky keeps stuttering until they turn the lights out on him and he finally just says "Go Home folks". Again, most of those videos I have are on YouTube. All are available somewhere on the Net and the trivia and some of the audio bumpers are from right here. Hopefully, that will give you some ideas. I did have at least one person react with "This is the stuff I hate at the theaters and want to skip!" but most thought it was pretty cool, especially if they recognized the old theater feature intro as something they hadn't seen in ages (e.g. 1970s General Cinema stuff or even the 1990s candy band bits)
  8. CVURL isn't ringing a bell offhand. Was that in one of the settings somewhere? When I first used CinemaVision trailers I got YouTube videos and they were often poor looking and in some skins (e.g. Isengard) it opened up some pop-up that said something like "loading youtube video" or something to that effect and it just completely brought me out of the whole "cinema" mood so I disabled YouTube videos and put iTunes first. I also modified my Confluence skin to get rid of the "busy/working" indicators. I actually just updated it to the 3.1 version of Confluence with 17.3 Krypton. Estuary is awful, IMO.
  9. VonMagnum

    Getting Started

    Get the CinemaVision Launcher plugin (under contextual in official repository; in fact if you add it first; it automatically installs the main CinemaVision plugin as well). That pretty much adds that right contextual menu option to every skin, even if they don't directly support the Cinemavision plugin. I don't know if I'm allowed to offer modified Confluence skins on here or not, but I've got versions for both 15.2 Isengard and the current 17.3 Krypton to get rid of the "busy/working" indicators as well. I think the new Estuary skin for Krypton supports Cinemavision by default, but that may only mean it gets rid of the busy indicators, not necessarily providing a context menu start for it. I prefer Confluence over Estuary anyway.
  10. I'm not sure what you're doing wrong. I have only gotten 1st run trailers from iTunes for movies that are not out at theaters yet every time I've selected a script with trailers in it. I have YouTube disabled, iTunes first and then KodiDB prioritized in the setup with a preference for 720p trailers. I typically only have it play one trailer per movie, but I've gotten everything from the new Aliens movie (before it was released) to Blade Runner 2049 in September and the new Mummy movie (among others I can't recall offhand as they were less interesting to me). I have never gotten a making of. I may have gotten "B" movies (depends on what you call B-movies since most everything these days are remakes, sequels or comic book movies with hardly anything original that isn't classified as "low budget" or "b-movie" since Hollywood are seemingly too chicken to make truly NEW movies anymore). Make sure you specify 720p as a minimum in the configuration if you don't want lower resolution trailers. I moved iTunes above KodiDB (select and move upwards) in the configuration order. I have it set to choose by theme (i.e. if you're watching a Sci-Fi movie, it will try and pick a 'new' Sci-Fi trailer with iTunes set first in order). I suppose trailers for older movies might not look that great, but I'd rather see them than yet another comic book trailer. Of course, if you have Blu-Rays you can always dump the (usually included) trailers yourself and create your own high-def classic movie trailer directory for your own library for KodiDB instead of depending on (often junk) quality from something like YouTube (where Kodi defaults to get ALL trailers from for "information" selections). What I'd like is a way to show a trailer like "Also playing at this theater" for KodiDB selections and "coming soon" type trailers for the new stuff (i.e. have CinemaVision separate the two and have say a way to select 1-3 new movie trailers followed by 1-2 KodiDB trailers with the "also playing at this theater" trailer in-between (what you often see in real theaters to distinguish future movies from ones also playing at the same theater). I've seen bumpers for "also playing here" but I'm not aware of how to keep them separate other than to only show KodiDB versus iTunes in which case you'd have to make sure only "also playing at this theater" type trailers were the only ones it could select.
  11. VonMagnum

    Datasat Pack (HD)

    This is a neat bumper. I've been able to find movies on their site released at some theaters in this format, but do any Blu-Rays (or other sources) actually offer this soundtrack at home? Do any receivers decode it currently?
  12. VonMagnum

    Auro-3D Pack (HD)

    Even if I could find a movie that offered this format for home viewing, the rather long demonstration video is not really appropriate as a bumper in CinemaVision, IMO. The Datasat one by comparison would work fine.
  13. VonMagnum

    MPAA Zoom by Anthony.zip

    It's very nice, but the "R" rated bumper doesn't zoom at all here. I personally would like to hear an audible bit at the end "...by the Motion Picture Association of America" as well (like HBO used to read). It's slightly robotic sounding, but not bad (I'm assuming synthetic voice reading). I've thought about using some HBO audio clips to make some for my own use. On the other hand, I don't think theaters ever used voice overs for MPAA ratings, but it would go well with the old HBO feature presentation trailers for some HBO nostalgia.
  14. Is anyone working on any Golden Age (1927-1964) type trivia packs or for movies from that era? I'm a huge Bogart fan (I've got 55 Bogart films, several of which I had to convert from VHS due to no known other ones available at the time and still about 20 left missing with b-parts). I've started watching a lot of other related films (Edward G. Robinson, James Cagney, etc.) as well lately. I doubt I'd be great at making up trivia questions, but some Bogie film trivia or quotes would be a nice addition. I have no idea how you guys make these things, though.
  15. VonMagnum

    Scope content and 7.1 sound

    In a similar vein, is there a way that CinemaVision can detect a THX certified movie? I noticed a directory for THX audio bumpers, but I don't know how that would ever be activated. Given most theaters that are THX certified show (or at least SHOWED as in the past; I don't see it much anymore) a THX trailer for every movie shown in a THX rated screen, I'm guessing it doesn't really matter much if you want your guests to think your home cinema is "THX" so I have it show it as "Feature Outro" (i.e. right after the feature intro and before the detected audio format bumper), but I figured the THX Directory must be there for a reason so I'm curious if some movies have some kind of marker somehow (or if it can be added with Subler or whatever meta data). One thing I wish Kodi would add is support for ID Tag Meta Data for M4V and MKV videos (meta data could easily be used to mark everything from aspect ratio to when the credits roll for a given film). iTunes + AppleTV has had that support since like 2007. An entire DECADE later, Kodi still doesn't support it (they just don't care from their comments on there, which is too bad since their music ID Tag reader can actually read the movie data already; if you rename a movie from M4V to .M4A and run it through the music section it will read the tags just fine so all they ever had to do was adapt that code for the movie section. Davilla talked about doing it, but never got around to it either. Some movies/videos simply aren't known in the various movie databases (common with concert films and some foreign films and most "director's cut" versions get no differentiation at all within Kodi) yet tagging them yourself at home is easy and lets you pre-pick movie art, etc. Subler actually automates the ID Tag data for you on a search after you encode with Handbrake or whatever program and makes it a cinch for most movies. This is one advantage AppleTV still has, but then you lose these great CinemaVision options.

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